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Kerry Jordan, CFA, has been out of work since January 2008, despite 14 years of experience at FBR Capital Markets, Bank of America, and NASDAQ. You'd think her work in new business development, strategic planning, risk management and raising capital would have left her well-positioned to land a new job quickly. But here's the rub: "Everyone is in retrenchment mode and the few positions that do become available are filled internally," she says. "Second, the recruiters and hiring partners they work with have so many candidates they can be specific about what they want."

That's the way of the world right now. But on top of that, Jordan's 2003 decision to leave her job as principal in the global derivatives products group at BofA still dogs her. When the group moved to Charlotte, N.C., after BofA acquired Fleet Bank, Jordan had to remain in Chicago because she shares custody of her three children with her ex-husband. She used her severance package to travel, volunteer and consider her next moves, deciding at the end of 2005 to get into consumer investment banking. Although she'd generated more than $3 million a year in annual revenues for BofA, it took until January 2007 for Jordan to land her position at FBR Capital Markets, where she served middle-market clients in the apparel, accessories, cosmetics and personal care sectors.

Even today, the result of that path impacts her: "I'm trying to move into the same role with one year of experience, (and banks) have a whole host of resumes from people who've been doing what I want do, only they have 10 years of experience," she observes.

Facing the Downturn

Like tens of thousands of investment bankers, Jordan spends hours each day on the phone, working her network. Locally, she attends CFA Society of Chicago meetings, gaining free admission to events in exchange for writing features for the society's newsletter. She also works with recruiter Shannon Simons at Opus Advisors.

Her efforts seemed to be paying dividends until October, when "everything came to a halt." Interviews stopped, firms stopped responding to inquiries, searches were put on hold and banks began focusing more on laying off than bringing on new talent. On top of that, "I'm at the point where I'm more experienced than someone coming in for a VP-level position, but I don't yet have a substantial enough Rolodex to come in for a higher-level job," she observes. "The level at which I'm qualified isn't in great demand, and there are so many people like me looking."

Facing Stereotypes

It's not that Jordan doesn't interview well. She does. She's personable, quick-witted and attractive. But like many women, she's often put in the position of fielding questions a man would never be asked. If her interviewer is a man, she says, she's invariably asked about her family life. In one recent discussion with an investment bank, the interviewer wanted to know, "Who takes care of your children when you travel?" Perhaps, Jordan muses, he hadn't noticed she'd been commuting to New York for a year during her previous job.

Although Jordan had her answer ready - "I'm very fortunate that I've had the same child care provider for the past 10 years and I'm able to rely upon her and a network I've had in place for a long time." - the interviewer decided she wasn't going to be a good fit. "I could tell he thought the travel was going to be more than he's comfortable with for the mother of three children," she says.

That didn't keep interviewer from suggesting Jordan join him at his lake house for the weekend. "I said it sounded tempting but I had plans," Jordan laughs.

Such incidents don't faze her. "I move on," she says. "All of my career has been spent on a trading floor surrounded by men, or on sales calls where most of the prospects are men, and I can let it roll off my back."

Shifting Targets

If Jordan doesn't find her ideal job by the end of 2009's first quarter, she says she'll adjust her expectations. "My daughter is 16 and until early last March I had four years of college money in a fund for her," she explains. "The way that has dropped is distressing, so in addition to thinking about how to keep the everyday finances going, I have to worry about meeting upcoming larger college payments."

If she has to expand her targets, Jordan will likely consider reverse-engineering her investment banking skills. "I'll find a position at one of the numerous cosmetics or personal care companies that I think will be a great private equity or family fund investment in two or three years," she says. "Then I'll try to attract the attention of a firm like Chrysallis or SF Equity Partners."

One thing that hasn't altered in the past year is Jordan's confidence. "When things calm down," she says, "I'll be attractive again in the marketplace."

COMMENTS

john stevens, Investment Banking / M & A,  Thu Dec 18 2008

Here we go again, another example of an entitled banker story.  You got the boot and you can't find work because the business is dryed up lady and they don't want a women over 40 with kids because the male pigs want a young piece of A** to push around.  Lower your expectations lady and get a real job with the a real company that makes things that doesn't manipulate and steal from there customers and the markets.  The best thing for this lady is not get a job in this industry. Get over and get with it and one more point, I wouldn't be mentioning firms you would drive your employer too that could be taken over by a PE firm.  That's very unprofessional and it shows all you care about is your next company getting acquired as opposed to REALLY helping them grow their business.  I hope you don't get another job and go bankrupt!!!

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Yvonne, Capital Markets,  Tue Dec 23 2008

What a stupid comment! I am a CFA Level 3 Candidate (firts time passes) and have a baby. And guess what - still unemployed...

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Kerry, Investment Banking / M & A,  Tue Dec 23 2008

Why are you so angry john?

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WKL, Asset Management,  Wed Dec 24 2008

The prior commentor needs to seriously get a grip.  Ms. Jordan would have faced the same judgmental sexist challenges (along with the challenge of the labor market is flooded with candidates) even if she is looking work in a "real" industry which makes real things instead of an industry which manipulate and steal from customers.  Unless one is in the minor class, one cannot understand exactly the challenges minority faces.  We all loss money in this market.  We were all deceived by some greedy financial whiz.  But we are the one who were greedy enough to take the bait.  Have some compassion Mister.  Wishing someone else jobless or go bankrupt will not bring your money back.

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Molly, Consulting,  Wed Dec 24 2008

Dear John,
Perhaps instead of criticizing other people's challenges, you should go back to high school English class. Your grammar is atrocious.
Merry Christmas!
Molly

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harsh, Information Technology,  Wed Dec 24 2008

Hey Kerry,Why dont you try looking for something in Asia,Midle East or Singapore...

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Ananda, New Delhi., Quantitative Analytics,  Wed Dec 24 2008

Dear Ms. Jordan,

The time's bad for everybody.
Just for the moment have you considered becoming a trainer. I, a man, had my share too: tossed around for want of a PG Degree, despite performance and real results.

Never stop being a sport that you are.

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Jennifer, Sales & Marketing,  Wed Dec 24 2008

I'm in a similar position, shared custody of 3 kids, can't move away but more than willing and able to travel.
Too over qualified to get "a real job" (according to John) and not enough experience to stay in the financial industry. The last position I held was in sales, the VP came right out and asked (on my 2nd day of training)  "Do you want to F***?" I politely declined. It's certainly not the first time I've run across this kind of thing and I'm sure it won't be the last.
My friends and I compare interview notes. The men are asked questions relating to the position for which they are being interviewed; women are asked a few business related questions but a disproportionate amount of time is spent discussing their children or hinting toward sexual innuendos.

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Ales, Investment Banking / M & A,  Thu Dec 25 2008

Interesting story, and the gender bias Kerry Jordan experienced is unfortunate, but certainly not unique to her situation.  It seems she's on the right track, though: assess your skills and consider other roles for which you would be a valuable contributor.

By the way, she is listed on LinkedIn.com as currently being "SVP at FBR Capital Markets", and has the grand total of 2 contacts.  Better work on building a demonstrable Rolodex....

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Mayra Mizrachi, Operations,  Mon Dec 29 2008

Hi Kerry,

What you are experiencing is not unusual in the current market.  I was a Sr. Operations Executive for 15 years; I became unemployed in 2007.  The few interviews I've had, twice I was offered a job.  One company shut down before I got started and the other one decided to restructure and promote from within.  It is challenging specially for executive level candidates.  I've been told too many times I am overqualified and made too much money.  They worry if they employ me the moment a new opportunity comes along, I would leave.  I recommend looking at other parallel career options to weather the storm.  Things eventually change, nothing remains the same.
There are a lot of angry people out there that place blame on to others for their shortcomings; it is best to ignore it.  Best Wishes and Best of Luck for the coming year.

Mayra

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